2007-10-04

Den störste


VM 2007 Peter Joppich och de andra världsmästarna får ursäkta. Världens nu störste aktiva fäktare är ryssen Stanislav Pozdniakov, 34. I går tog han sitt femte VM-guld. Är sabelfäktaren den störste genom alla tider?

MERITER:
OS: 1 guld (Atlanta 1996)
OS-lag: 3 guld, 1 brons
VM: 5 guld, 3 silver
VM-lag: 5 guld, 2 silver, 2 brons.
EM: 5 guld (varav 4 i rad)
EM-lag: Ryssland har vunnit 7 gånger under Pozdniakovs karriär. Oklart om han medverkat alla gånger.
Världscupen: Flerfaldig totalsegrare
JVM: 1 guld

5 kommentarer:

  1. Tomasz Goral04 oktober, 2007 12:43

    Short lesson of history:
    Stanislaw pozdniakow is amaizing, and owsome.
    but.. please check little history.
    FIE have give "best sabre man ever" title already to: Jerzy Pawłowski (POL)
    why??
    5 times on Olimpic games,
    5 medals on Olimpic games
    1956 - silver individual
    1956 - silver team
    1960 - silver team
    1964 - bronze team
    1968 - gold individual
    19 medals from World champioships
    7 times gold medal (1957,1959,1961,1962,1963,1965,1966)
    14 times polish champion.

    FIE gives him this title in 1967

    but offcourse that was "old" fencing.

    Hi was also double spy for poland since 1950 and for USA cooperate with CIA since 1964.
    In 1975 hi was arested and poland give him 25years of prison,
    hi was free after 10years becouse of prison change between CIA and KGB in 1985.
    After this polish goverment dont let him continue proffesional sports carrier.

    Hi died in 2005.

    Hi was 17years old when hi start fencing. 175cm tall, 75kg weight.

    SvaraRadera
  2. Tomasz Goral04 oktober, 2007 13:09

    6times on Olimpic games... 1972 also.

    SvaraRadera
  3. Anonym04 oktober, 2007 13:32

    Hej

    Han är en riktigt bra fäktare. Och troligen är det som med allt mycket svårare att vinna idag en förr. Så texten nedan är inte riktigt rättvis. Men om frågan var genom tiderna så blir svaret nej! Dels pga av Tomasz nämnda fäktare men också:


    Aladár Gerevic HUN
    Olympic record (world not included)

    Gold 1932 Los Angeles Sabre team
    Gold 1936 Berlin Sabre team
    Bronze 1936 Berlin Sabre individual
    Gold 1948 London Sabre team
    Gold 1948 London Sabre individual
    Gold 1952 Helsinki Sabre team
    Silver 1952 Helsinki Sabre individual
    Bronze 1952 Helsinki Foil team
    Gold 1956 Melbourne Sabre team
    Gold 1960 Rome Sabre team

    No other athlete has won even bronze medals separated by 28 years.

    ELLER

    Rudolf Karpati HUN - 6-time Olympic & 7-time World sabre Champion

    ELLER

    SOM FÄKTARE (EJ ENBART SABEL)

    Edoardo Mangiarotti ITA
    Olympic record (world not included)

    Gold 1936 Berlin Team épée
    Gold 1952 Helsinki Individual épée
    Gold 1952 Helsinki Team épée
    Gold 1956 Melbourne Team foil
    Gold 1956 Melbourne Team épée
    Gold 1960 Rome Team épée
    Silver 1948 London Team foil
    Silver 1948 London Team épée
    Silver 1952 Helsinki Individual foil
    Silver 1952 Helsinki Team foil
    Silver 1960 Rome Team foil
    Bronze 1948 London Individual épée
    Bronze 1956 Melbourne Individual épée

    SvaraRadera
  4. >Genrich04 oktober, 2007 16:29

    Intresting lesson Tomasz. Pawtowski seem to have been an amazing fencer, but also a really interesting person. Maybe I shall write someting about him some day.

    Till debatten: Är det svårare att vinna VM/OS/EM idag än förr?

    Dagens fäktare tränar och tävlar efter dagens förutsättningar, gårdagens efter gårdagens.

    SvaraRadera
  5. Tomasz Goral04 oktober, 2007 23:08

    amaizing is when you read about "kings" of fencing.. and you have oportunity to meet them.. I have lucky that I have meet: Pawlowski, Magnan, Prof Tyshler, D'oriola, prof Czajkowski...

    for me actuall fencing is totally different than fencing of 70-80'
    totaly different than fencing of 50-60 - that we can watch only on old photos...

    totally different was a system of competitions, practices etc.

    today sport is a big machine, including support from equipment, medicine, biomechanics etc.

    many of great fencers have big problems when electrical aparats shows up,
    later many fencers didnt continue their great results because of "flicks"... now we have also situation that nice classical fencing is just a nice memory or little base to do something more.. you need to be a physical machine, with atomic legs, soft and sure hand...

    Did Franke or Magnan can win with Cerioni or Golubitsky?
    Did Golubitksy or Dong can win with Baldini or Joppich?

    we cannot answer, we cannot compare...

    today to becam a champion you need to be a 120% proffesional... and fencing need to be 100% of your life..
    in 70-80-90 proffesional fencing was on little different "level"
    no worst, no better, juz different.

    SvaraRadera

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